What if the wheels come off the wagon and the police are no longer guardians of peace. What would the police do if they became hungry and angry, just like the masses.”

Full disclosure: I am one of them. Or I was one of them, to be more accurate. I’m retired now, so I spend my days watching the lawn grow and pondering various “what-ifs”. One of these gedankenexperiments is: “What if the wheels come off the wagon and the police are no longer guardians of peace. What would the police do if they became hungry and angry, just like the masses.” My wife thinks I should get a hobby, to which I answer I already have one: prepping.

For 27 years I worked in law enforcement for several agencies. Most of my career was spent at the federal level, but not all. I worked in the pacific northwest, the coastal south, and the upper Midwest. I worked in both rural areas and major population centers. I traveled internationally as part of my job and observed how my counterparts operate in Thailand and South Africa. I base the following perspectives on the totality of my experiences- the training, the personal relationships, and basic knowledge of how law enforcement (LE)  operates.

I attended five police academies – nearly two years of my adult life were spent in formal training environments. Most smart people in law enforcement only attend one, maybe two academies but ambition, restlessness, or frustration propelled me to jump ship to different agencies several times. I spent the first third of my career as a uniformed patrol officer and the remainder as an investigator, in both covert and overt capacities. I was a firearms instructor for many years and continue in this role on a part-time basis in retirement. I mention this history so you understand how my background influences my thinking.

The following is my personal opinion and nothing more. I represent no agency nor ever will again.
Let’s imagine a scenario where daily norms have taken a sudden turn for the worse. The power grid becomes unreliable, supply chains are stressed, the threat of civil war looms on the horizon, foreign adversaries become more menacing in their threats and actions, the cost of food increases 3% every month, health care systems are overwhelmed and criminals are exploiting gaps in public safety due to defunded and demoralized police. Just a couple of years ago, all of this would’ve seemed awfully far-fetched, right? But how about now?

This presentation PROOVES WITHOUT DOUBT that America is in for a major fight that will put you and your family in the firing line, literally… So make sure you watch this presentation while it’s still online…

The reason why you should pay attention now is that is because these techniques don’t come from books, they’re taken from actual 21st century warzones, from lawless states where social chaos is the name of the game… … and where not having enough time or money to prepare doesn’t stop real-world preppers from creating virtually impenetrable defenses for their families.

So what happens to the police when the crashing waves get bigger and bigger until the castle of sand we know as society washes into the sea? How should a prepper approach both planning and the actuality of limited police, no police, or even illegitimate police?

Disclaimer: I worked with hundreds of LEOs during my career and can attest the vast majority are honest, dedicated, and professional. Many, like myself, were drawn to the career to be part of something larger than themselves and to make the world a better place. However, there was a basic unwritten social contract in place: the community-supported police by providing salary and benefits, prosecutors would aggressively pursue those who hurt the police, and the courts and penal system harshly punished the same. What happens when those prongs of the social contract no longer exist? What happens when the angry, hungry mobs rise en masse, with complete disregard for previous norms, with no accountability for their actions? What happens when police no longer are held accountable? Here are some scenarios:

POLICE BECOME THEIR OWN MAG

In this scenario, the police go into classic “bunker mode” and focus resources on protecting police stations and officers’ personal homes and families. The police become an exclusive mutual assistance group (MAG) consisting of their own, with the sole mission of protecting their workplace and residences. Response to calls for outsider assistance will be minimal to non-existent.

POLICE BECOME PRIVATE SECURITY

In this scenario, police devote their resources to protecting whoever can compensate them in food and durable goods, such as retailers, warehouses, and shipping terminals. Or possibly to affluent people who can reward protection of life and property with precious metals and other valuables. Again, response to non-compensating requests for assistance will be minimal or non-existent.

POLICE BECOME PART OF THE ANGRY HORDE

In this scenario, society has fully unraveled into every man for themselves and the police are indiscernible from the looters, scavengers, and thieves. Police exploit access to food storage facilities, warehouses, and retailers. Although rare in modern events of mass looting and civil disorder, such extralegal police-involved looting and theft did occur to a limited extent during Hurricane Katrina and most recently in Durban, South Africa.

AFGHAN-STYLE DISSOLUTION

Perhaps Afghanistan isn’t a perfect template for how the United States would collapse into lawlessness, mainly because we don’t have a resident army of adherents to 7th century Sharia law–not yet at least. However, it does provide insight as to what happens when a country’s internal security apparatus falls apart. As witnessed in just the past two weeks, when the Taliban were no longer contained, the Afghan officers quickly discarded their uniforms, walked away from their posts, and abandoned hope that the government they were part of would protect them. Their focus simply became their own survival, and survival of their families. The Afghan police did not fall into any of the previous examples. They simply disintegrated into a non-entity.

THE POLICE ADVANTAGE

But let’s not overlook the fact that police officers, for valid reasons, have certain advantages which will be especially useful in the event of SHTF situations. Officers are regularly trained in weapon and defensive tactics. Officers have access to various small arms, chemical deterrents, ammunition, Kevlar vests, radio systems, and possibly even surplus armored vehicles. But most importantly, police have each other- a group of like-minded, motivated people they train with and conduct tactical operations with. They know how each other think, they know how each other will move, and they know how each other will react in fluid situations. They know what each other’s specific role is and that supporting each other is key to mission success. As preppers, to have similar dynamics in place would be invaluable when the Schumer Hits The Fan (SHTF).

WHAT THE PREPPER CAN DO

First, recognize the “good guys” might not be in a position to respond when the SHTF and if circumstances get dire enough, the good guys could even become bad guys. This isn’t a criticism of police officers but a reflection of the proven adage that when people are hungry and scared, they become capable of actions previously believed unthinkable. A great read on this dynamic is the excellent account of a blogger named Selco, who survived the Bosnian civil war in the 1990s.

One specific prep that readers can adopt is forming a MAG in your immediate domain, where you become the protection provider in the absence of civil authority. Some ideas to consider:

1. Establishing a core group of sheepdogs, namely close friends and family, neighbors, and like-minded persons. Focus on identifying earnest persons committed to protecting residences and property and mutual resources such as water supply, crops, wildlife, and human life.

2. Establishing mutual communications, such as ham radios and CBs. Every member of the group should have a home base station, mobile radios for vehicles, and handhelds with compatible frequencies. Total cost for a complete UHF/VHF radio setup can be as low as $600, depending on manufacturer. (An example of a simple, practical comms set up would be a Wouxon KG-B55 Dual-band base station at buytwowayradios.com for $399, a QYT KT-8900D car radio for $80 and a couple of Baofeng GT-3WP handhelds for $45 each at that Brazilian river website that we all dislike.

Sidenote: 
There’s another issue regards FCC licensing and obligation to allow inspection. This topic could be a feature article of its own… in a nutshell, yes, a federal law passed in 1934 does require radio operators (licensed and unlicensed) allow for FCC inspection of radio equipment, including inside their homes. I’m not going to do a deep dive into the legal aspects now but don’t forget: the 4th amendment protects citizens from unwarranted government searches.

3. Obtain group tactical training from someone with actual bona fides in small unit tactics. I say this because not all tactical trainers are created equal; avoid the big talking barrel suckers who learned their close quarters combat techniques via YouTube.

4. Sponsor training sessions with your core group of sheepdogs along with your and their families. Involve all attendees in the training, whether it be a simulated hostage rescue of a family, a mass injury first aid response, or vehicle cover and concealment drills. Make it fun, and have a bbq dinner at the end of the training. Recognize the days those skills get put to actual use is going to be sooner, not later.\

CONCLUSION

I hope that the foregoing provided some insider perspective of what to expect when the police no longer answer 911 calls. I suspect there may be some pushback from police officers regarding what I’ve posited in respect to police abandoning their oaths and becoming bad guys under certain circumstances. My response is everyone is capable of doing bad things, especially during periods of intense strife, badge or no badge. The more we acknowledge such and prepare for it, the less likely that we’ll become bad guys, too.

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11 thoughts on “What if the wheels come off the wagon and the police are no longer guardians of peace. What would the police do if they became hungry and angry, just like the masses.”

  1. In other words, we need to be well enough armed with large enough weapons, so no one escapes our intent to protect what is ours. The sad part my friend is that the STATE and/or Federal Government will ask Law Enforcement to be the first responders which will be considered targets and cannon fodder. Thank your lucky stars you are retired as am I, but lets both hope that we don’t turn into shrinking violets when in a SHTF scenario !

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  2. All those who believed the lie of evolution and modern educators telling them that man is basically good and doesn’t need God, are in for a rude awakening when times get tough. As if man was not already bad enough.

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  3. Too bad these are the people that have put us in this position. The masses will look at these inforcers as the trators they are and have nothing but raging anger toward them for helping the plan for destroying freedom move us into the state of affairs we are in now. These pirates of the highways will have no future when the sleeping bear awakes. There action or in action will be of no matter when people realize they assisted in the terrible loss of freedom and our country. Bill of rights is what we fight for .

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  4. I’ll just poison everything around me, I know how. And wait till they all die. Then I’ll take all their shiiet! Including ex-cops and their family. Fair game as they were a part of destroying the nation instead of arresting all the dirty politicians and their cohorts.

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  5. I am watching the collapse of our society, a former MP during Vietnam I think I was one of the good cops. Yes we had bad ones too. But I do remember the black market was very tempting. Thus was enticed by the benefits too. Even good guys can be tempted in interesting times.
    We must remember when things get tough, the tough keep ongoing. I remember feeling very ashamed for my participation and as soon as possible rectified the error of judgment.. I was just a 21-year-old kid with authority. Then I saw how even seasoned old soldiers became involved in crimes (Me Lie) I knew those soldiers and Col Henderson was my Boss. I offered to apprehend Henderson for continuing to make bad judgement calls. I was in danger for my stand. So my provost Marshall helped me find a new job in a MARS RADIO station. What a relief. The Provost Marshall carried the ball from there and eventually a few years later. Henderson got some punishment for the err in his ways.

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  6. My fear is that they will continue to act under color of authority to secure their own provisions or security. For example they say they must confiscate this vehicle, fuel, food, or property for the common good, but in reality they’re using their badges to rob people.

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  7. ANYONE WHO KILLS CHILDREN IS A DEVIL,and the POLICE GANGS LOVE TO KILL CHILDREN,and the FAMILY DOG,yet they LOVE to call themselves Hero’s,AND AMERICA KNOWS THEIR DEVILS AND SO DO THE RUSSIANS,the Hero’s of america MURDERED 20,000 adopted Russian children,and GOT PAID to do it,MISTAKE NUMBER ONE,”KILLING RUSSIAN CHILDREN”..These children weren’t just anyones children,THEY WERE RUSSIAN CHILDREN,and the HERO’S OF AMERICA MURDERED THEM ALL,.THE JAB proves 2/3 of americans are total morons,,their all GMO NON-HUMANS NOW,..ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THE RUSSIANS HAVE FORGOT ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN BEING MURDERED,probably thinks they did,SOON AMERICA WILL LEARN DIFFERENTLY,…ESPECIALY THE POLICE GANGS WHO KILL CHILDREN,AND THE FAMILY DOGS..,LIKE THEY ALL DO..THE LORD WARNED EVERYONE NOT TO HARM HIS LITTLE ONES..,laugh now FOOLS,your about to be destroyed for what your HERO’S DID.and your eyes,and BRAIN are so dim, you won’t see it coming

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  8. Yeah… As a former US Marine, I consider all LEO both active and retired the enemy.
    The Blue wall of shame will follow you forever.
    “Most” of you ARE NOT “honest, trustworthy or hard working”.
    MOST OF YOU ARE PSYCHO-BULLY PUNKS and will be treated as such if the SHTF.

    Dismissed,
    E-7 Ret.

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  9. If society collapses then the Police will be More Dangerous than any gangs remember Katrina in Louisiana & All the Crooked Cops who Looted, Killed & Deserted their jobs.

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  10. Whenever I hear “Support your local police” I think to myself… yeah, right, and if they are told to do so they will come to your house in the middle of the night, kick your door in, and kill you should you attempt to defend yourself. They work for “The Man” and owe their allegiance to their paycheck and benefits… not you, Citizen. Should they go rogue during some future societal collapse then they will be dealt with.

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